How to Date Your Perfume Bottle

Do you have a vintage perfume and need help in figuring out how old it may be? Simply knowing when your perfume first came out can be a huge help. Please remember that some perfumes were made for many years after their launch dates, on the other hand, some perfumes were only sold for a very short time. Here is a comprehensive guide to help you figure out the age of your perfume bottle.




The Bottle Itself:


Bottles embossed with or having labels marked "Made in Occupied Japan" were made from September 1945 until April 1952.

Enameled lettering, also known as serigraphy (instead of labels), on glass bottles started being used after the 1930s and was pretty regular feature in the 1940s onward. This lettering is fragile and can be easily lost with cleaning.

Look for a patent number on the base of the bottle, these patent dates were frequent in the 1930s and 1940s, you can look up the number on search engines on US patent webpages online. Also, English Registry Design numbers can also be found on perfume bottles from the United Kingdom, you can search the numbers online also.

Old glass bottles might have etched matching numbers on the base of the perfume bottle and on the bottom of the stopper. This was done at the factory when the stopper would have been ground to fit the bottle, the numbers are to show which bottle goes with the right stopper. These were usually found on French bottles such as Baccarat.

Older bottles stamped their name and origin somewhere on the bottle. In the 1940s, stickers replaced the stamping but were soon lost or destroyed, making it difficult to authenticate.

Older bottles from the 1930s-40s would have lot numbers, bottle shape numbers or patent numbers embossed right into the glass base.

By 1970, cosmetic companies were stamping colored numbers on the bottom of their products. This stamping usually consisted of four numbers and was visible on the bottom of each item and is a "batch code", which is used by the company to note what year and month the product was created. Batch codes are often found either stamped on the glass or the label. Later, many bottles often have their batch codes engraved into the glass; (Chanel, Dior, Thierry Mugler, etc).






Labels:

Old labels turn brown naturally, however, water and perfume can cause stains on labels over the years. 

The styles of the boxes or labels can also help determine age. Art Nouveau is generally 1900-1920s, Art Deco mid 1920s and some styles carried into the 1940s, psychedelic late 1960s-early 1970s. Please note that this isn't always foolproof.

At the beginning of the 20th century, revenue stamps appeared on the imported scents coming into America. This stamped container is very collectible, because of the information on that stamp.

On bottles destined for the Mexican market, you may find labels with a number and the initials TDSP, this stands for Tratado sobre el Derecho Sustantivo de Patentes (Substantive Patent Law Treaty). I have found these small labels on bottles from the 1930s and 1940s. The companies found were both Chanel and Ciro. I am sure there are plenty others. I am unsure if this is a patent or trademark used on the perfume name itself or the bottle design, I suspect it was for the perfume name, such as Chanel No. 5. or Surrender by Ciro. These names were registered in Mexico to protect the brands.



Always look at all sides of a bottle. Some labels can be read from both sides, looking thru the back of the bottle. You might encounter labels which have the date stamped on the back of the labels. Sample bottles from the 1950s onward, often had labels that would say "sample, not to be sold". Today's bottles read "tester". Factice, or display bottles, were not meant for resale, and will have labels such as: "dummy, not for sale". Sometimes a date is also stamped on the backside of the label, I have seen this with old Chanel and Lanvin bottles. Chanel bottles from the 1960s onward should have the backs of their labels marked with a copyright symbol and CC. 

If your bottle has a label which states: "returning this bottle to the perfumer is a national duty"...then your bottle dates from 1940-1945 during World War II.

If your label states that the perfume was "created/compounded/assembled" in France or USA, it dates to after the 1940s and most likely dates to the 1950s.

The presence of clear labels indicating contents were first used around the 1950s. These are either on the front, back or base of your bottle.

If your bottle has a label stating SDA (Specially Denatured Alcohol) it dates to the 1940s-1950s.



If your box or label has a number with a degree symbol, this notes the perfume or cologne's alcohol percentage. Two common percentages are 80% and 90% for eau de toilette and cologne. This helps date the bottle to after the 1950s.

A Zip Code on a label denotes age meaning this bottle is from 1962 or later. Before 1937, no zip codes were used. From 1937 to 1962, two code numbers were used on mail and labels. In 1962, all zip codes were required by the US Postal Service.



By Manufacturer:

Look on the base of your bottle for acid stamps for Baccarat, Lalique, Cristal Nancy or Cristal Romesnil, these markings add value to your bottle. Cristal Nancy closed their doors in 1934. Only from 1936, Baccarat bottles were systematically engraved with a mark. Prior to this, they were acid etched, stamped and some had round paper labels, while many have no distinguishing marks.

Lalique perfumes were marked with a signature on the bases. The signature has changed over the years and you can date a bottle by the style of the signature. Older bottles are marked R. Lalique in block lettering. You can look up various websites or books on Lalique to find signatures and the dates they were used. If your bottle is signed Rene Lalique or R. Lalique, this mark was used until 1945 when Rene Lalique died, after this date bottles will be simply marked Lalique France.

If your bottle has an embossed entwined HP mark on the base of the bottle, it was made by the glass factory of Pochet et du Courval in France after 1930.

If your bottle is marked S or SGD on the base, it was manufactured by the Saint Gobain Desjonqueres glass factory of France after the 1950s, when the factory was rebuilt after WWII and equipped with modern fully-automatic machinery.

If your bottle has a VB, or BR mark on the base, it was made by Verreries Brosse of France after the 1920s when the factory installed semi-automatic bottle making machines. In 1963, Brosse switched from making hand ground stoppers to precision machine grinding. In 1976, Brosse patented two new stopper innovations, the first is a ring made of polypropylene with horizontal joints placed on the stopper dowel. The second is a polypropylene coating of the stopper dowel designed with internal friction teeth.



If your bottle is marked Gaillard, J. Viard or J. Villard, it was made during 1900-1920s. Lucien Gaillard was a contemporary of Lalique and designed many Art Nouveau perfume bottles for notable French perfume houses such as Clamy and Violet. Julien Viard was a French glass designer of the 1920s and designed bottles for Richard Hudnut, Isabey, Favolys and Langlois. Both Gaillard and Viard collaborated and you might find the mark of J. Villard on some bottles.


Caps or Stoppers:

Older perfumes are sealed with onion skin, viscose or thin celluloid in either red, clear, blue or other colors.

Bakelite screw caps were in usage from 1930s-1950s. Some perfume bottles as the ones for Lanvin often continued using black Bakelite screw caps into the 1960s. If you rub the cap with your finger briskly or hold it under hot running water (remove cap from bottle first!) for about 20-30 seconds, then smell it, if it has a formaldehyde odor, it is Bakelite.

Lucite caps were used from the late 1930s-onward. The older lucite caps become yellowed or discolored from perfume and can have small fractures or chips.

Another feature was the use of plastic caps placed over the base of a ground glass stopper. The finest plastic caps began to be used by 1970 when the glass factory of Saint Gobain Desjonqueres introduced the first plastic covered dowel stoppers.

Glass stoppers that had dowels that went into corks were in use from 1870s-1920s.

Goldtone plastic screw caps were in use after the 1940s.

Goldtone metal screw caps were in use from 1920s onward.


Boxes & Packaging:




If there is an e-sign, also known as the estimated sign, next to the volume, it was made after 1976. This is a mark that can be found on some pre-packed goods in Europe and indicates that the packaging is filled according to the European Union Directive.






If there is a EAN barcode on the box, this perfume dates to after 1989.



Starting in 1992, the Green Dot recycling symbol will appear on the box.




Period-after-opening symbol or PAO, is a graphic symbol that identifies the useful lifetime of a cosmetic product after its package has been opened for the first time. It depicts an open cosmetics pot and is used together with a written number of months or years. This symbol has been in use since 2005.



Refer to Insert: A hand pointing at a book means there is information or instructions contained on a leaflet, booklet, or other insert which can’t be listed on the primary label. The information can be things like an ingredients list, usage instructions, or warnings. This symbol is particularly useful for smaller cosmetic products since they don’t have enough space on their container to list all the product’s information.Thi has been in use at least since 2005.



The Fair Packaging and Labeling Act is a U.S. law that applies to labels on many consumer products. It requires the label to state:

  • The identity of the product;
  • The name and place of business of the manufacturer, packer, or distributor; and
  • The net quantity of contents.
  • The contents statement must include both metric and U.S. customary units.

Passed under Lyndon B. Johnson in 1966, the law first took effect on July 1, 1967. The metric labeling requirement was added in 1992 and took effect on February 14, 1994.




From 1998-2003, a short list of ingredients are listed on the back of the box. Prior to this a box may only have listed the following ingredients: water, alcohol, fragrance. Older bottles, will have no ingredients listed at all.

By 2004, there will be a long, complicated list of ingredients listed on the back of the box.

Cellophane packaging was developed in 1908 by a Swiss textile engineer, Jacques Brandenberger, and in 1917 assigned his patents to La Cellophane Societe Anonyme and joined that organization. On December 26, 1923, an agreement was executed between Du Pont Cellophane Company and La Cellophane by which La Cellophane licensed Du Pont Cellophane Company exclusively under its United States cellophane patents. It was originally used to wrap luxury items, but was expensive and not moisture proof. Finding early perfumes with cellophane packaging is very rare. It wasn't until the late 1930s that cellophane started to become a regular feature on perfume box packaging.

If your label or box has the perfume company's address, you might be able to date the bottle by comparing the addresses for the company if a company has had more than one address.

The styles of the boxes or labels can also help determine age. Art Nouveau is generally 1900-1920s, Art Deco mid 1920s and some styles carried into the 1940s, psychedelic late 1960s-early 1970s. Please note that this isn't always foolproof.

Some perfume boxes or labels might have a warning label such as: "Warning--Use only as directed. Intentional misuse by deliberately concentrating and inhaling the contents can be harmful or fatal". This warning was approved by the FDA starting in 1975.

Any cosmetic, perfume or lotion labeled "hypoallergenic" dates to after 1975, when the FDA allowed companies to mark their products in this manner.


Miscellaneous:


The word "dram" to denote contents was used mostly during the 1930s and 1940s. It is equal to about 5ml or 1/8 oz. Dram bottles were small, usually purse sized, but were an economic and affordable way for women to purchase their favorite perfumes during the Great Depression and the Second World War period.

Sealed perfumes which look to have some perfume missing, have had their alcohol and water content evaporated, this is caused by heat, light, and poor storage as well as aging.  

Vintage perfume will start to darken and the oldest perfumes have a very dark, thick, syrupy texture due to the alcohol and water evaporating, which leaves only a high concentration of essential oils and aroma chemicals behind. If you still wish to wear the perfume, it can be revived with some perfumer's alcohol or worn as parfum, though it will never smell fresh like it once was.




Check out vintage advertisements for perfumes in old magazines. They will usually have a date on them and you can use these to compare your bottle to what is shown in the ad.



DATING REALLY OLD FRAGRANCE BOTTLES by Bill Ellis

(usually without labels)
These are some characteristics of very old bottles, that may help you in dating them, based on my experience with old bottles and drawing on information in Glass - Volume 2, by Jane Shadel Spillman (1983) - one of the Knopf Collectors' Guides to American Antiques.

Rough pontil - before 1850 ("bottles made later only occasionally have rough pontils") [Spillman, p. 16] A "rough pontil" mark is a circular broken glass edge centered on the bottom of the bottle, where the pontil rod was broken from the bottom after blowing the bottle.

Flanged lip - first half of 1800s in the US [Spillman, bottle #65] A wide thin lip on a bottle formed by spreading the mouth of the bottle

Free blown or part-size molds - 1800-1830 in the US; no uniformity in size or pattern; not attributable to the glass house unless the bottle has an identifying mark [Spillman, pp. 12, 34] Free-blown bottles have no mold seams;bottles made in part-size molds may have a mold seam around the bottle at the shoulder; the upper part of the bottle was finished by hand.

Full-size molds - starting 1820, all bottles by 1830 - uniform size and pattern [Spillman, p. 34] Bottles made in full-size molds have vertical seam lines from the base to the neck; the upper neck and lip were finished by hand.

Automatic bottle-blowing machines - starting in the late 1800s [Spillman, p. 35] Machine-made bottles have a mold seam from the base through the lip; the whole bottle is molded at one time.


22 comments:

  1. You are my hero! :). I have learned so much from you! Thank you for taking the time to educate us. I appreciate it so much!
    Kari Hayes

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  2. I don't have a perfume bottle; but rather what I think was a promotional item by Coty. It is a very pretty silk pin cushion. Is there a way I can send a picture?

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    1. Hi, thanks for stopping by, you can send photos to the following email: cleopatrasboudoir @ gmail dot com

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  3. Hi Grace,
    thank you so much for all the effort you put into your website. It's proved to be very enlightening and helpful. I only recently hopped on to the vintage perfume train and, thanks to you, I have some points to look out for. Judging by the look only can be quite tricky.

    May I ask you, how did you become a perfume detective? It seems to be an as exciting as unusual profession. (I hope this makes sense.)

    Best regards from Germany,
    Sonia

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  4. I don't have bottles but a 12 piece set of concrete from Molinard how can I tell how old they are?

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  5. i have a bottle marked made in france with intials cv

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  6. I have a Chanel No.5 Eau de Cologne with a white cap. It smells much better than the eau de cologne I purchased in 1989. Any idea when Chanel was using a white cap for their edc?

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    1. starting in 1975, it was only used during the 1970s.

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  7. Hi Grace, thank you for your site. I hope this message gets through to you. I need help to identify my perfume bottle. It is a 2" cut clear/ crystal? Bottle. The lid is a replica of a crown which is a screw on top. It appears to behold and silver in color with a green stone on top. The seam is on both the left and the right side of the bottle, extending from the base to the neck (where the screw top attaches). The marking on the bottom is PAT.O or PAT.D with the following numbers beneath it:98459. Thank you for any help, I've been searching for days. I will try to enclose a picture. My name is Cathy Sinor email is mamacathy@gmail.com.

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  8. I purchased a bottle of cologne or perfume at a yardsale the bottle looks familiar and smells like something I remember it doesn't have a sticker on the bottom to identify it....what can I do to find out what it is

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    1. hi, can you send me a photo, cleopatrasboudoir @gmail.com

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  9. I purchased a bottle of perfume or cologne at a yardsale but it has no sticker to identify it....can you help me

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  10. Hello, I have a perfume bottle that I think is about 1920's 30's according to your gold tone screw cap notes, but I cant be sure because I do not understand the markings. I tried to awnd a picture to the above gmail adress and it wouldnt go through.

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  11. I have an older bottle but the label is gone. I think I've identified it as Shalimar. The bottom of the bottle in raised letters says, GUERLAIN, Then a VR a 4 and Bottle made in France in all caps. The VR is together not two separate letters. Can anyone help me with year or dates of manufacture. Ty in advance.

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  12. Hi. I do some metal detecting. Recently I found a perfume top on my property that dates back hundreds of years.
    Unfortunately, the bottle wasn’t present. In the same area I’ve found a number of other items like a gold locket from the twenties, etc.
    the top is made perhaps from silver. It’s orb shaped with fleurs. The interior is silver also with threads. The mouth of the bottle is ground glass and smooth. It appears that there might have been cork material in the internal void of the upper portion of the cap.
    I’m reading that screw caps were invented in the late 1800s. Any idea if such bottle of our fume had cork, threaded sleeves over the ground glass?

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  13. I have a vintage perfume bottle that I am trying to find out how old it is , how much it is worth , and what kind it is. But I'm not having any luck unless I can take a picture of it and show it to someone. Can someone please help me.

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  14. What does the Reference Number (for example, Ref. 11.07.08) on older Caron boxes mean? Raiders of the Lost Scent says that we must beware of confusing the ref. number with the batch code, but doesn't say what the ref. number actually stands for. Does it provide a way to date Caron products? Thank you for any light you can shed.

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    1. Hi, a Reference number is an inventory code used a perfume company in their catalogs. If a store wanted to order or reorder a certain product from the catalog, they would have to use that code provided by the perfume company such as Caron, Guerlain, Houbigant, etc. The batch code tells us the month and year the product was manufactured. So as you can see, a batch code and reference code are two different things, but is easy to be confused if you aren't sure what these codes represent. Reference numbers have generally remained the same over the years, they are mainly found on vintage bottles and whenever possible, I have noted what the codes and what they stand for. You can see examples of these on my Guerlain, Houbigant, Chanel and other individual perfume company blog sites. They are updated as I find information. Thank you for asking.

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  15. I am searching for a Le Narcisse Noir bottle with the lotus flower black stopper. There are quite a few out there but I am unsure how to date them. One I am keen on has no gold label, stopper and base etched numbers and France in pale uniform letters on the base. Do you think this one from 1911? What should I look for!
    Thanks, Jo

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  16. I came around a mini bottle of Valentino, made in Italy, that is this little fanned out bottle of cut glass. The alcohol percentage is marked with ° symbol, not %. I know at certain point this symbol was banned on the bottles, but I cant seem to be able to find the info on when this changes. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

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